tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8218905194749721714.post8781501385127278481..comments2023-10-15T22:25:49.503+08:00Comments on Hawkeye: More than 200,000 at Bersih 2.0Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14911256124110730950noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8218905194749721714.post-59906128549557894142011-08-02T21:04:43.818+08:002011-08-02T21:04:43.818+08:00Great post and great job, Hawkeye. Remember that t...Great post and great job, Hawkeye. Remember that the world is with Malaysians wanting change. I hope Malaysia will get its long overdued changes. Bersih is never forgottenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8218905194749721714.post-31332665091893275602011-07-15T13:02:44.051+08:002011-07-15T13:02:44.051+08:00If not because of the road block and threatening t...If not because of the road block and threatening tactics employed by the police, the turn-up will scare the government in wetting their pants!Malaysianhttp://www.eguide.com.mynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8218905194749721714.post-68500984326133133462011-07-15T07:38:21.565+08:002011-07-15T07:38:21.565+08:00That is the most likely numbers of Bersih particip...That is the most likely numbers of Bersih participants than that estimated by PDRM and Malaysiakini. The fact that 200K attended despite the various threats, roadblocks and other form of restraints from PDRM revealed the followings:<br />1. The "revolution" if it happens is NOT due to race and religion as portrayed by UMNO and PERKASA BUT due to frustrations of rakyat at the present Government due to rampant corruptions, poor governance, mismanagement of nation resources etc. The Government must have the Political will to combat all evils activities that affect the well being of the rakyat.<br />2. Rakyat are well informed and NOT easily intimidated.<br />3. The propaganda against Bersih by the Government media is counter productive and rakyat are perceiving it as MISINFORMATION.<br />4. Rakyat knows their RIGHT to demonstrate peacefully and are willing to be arrested since the declaration of Bersih as illegal is UNLAWFUL.<br />5. Ambiga Sreenevasan is a situational leader that empowered Malaysian to rise up for free and fair election. The present of PR provide fuel for the Government to coin Betrsih as trying to topple the present Government.<br />6. MOST IMPORTANT fact is that the news through the INTERNET or IT is a FORCE multiplier and exert much influence to the Malaysian than any Government controlled media.<br /><br />These are the lessons learned from the Bersih march for fair and free elections.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8218905194749721714.post-47916857126698549852011-07-15T04:00:21.624+08:002011-07-15T04:00:21.624+08:00I was at bersih 1.0, hindraf, anti-isa and bersih ...I was at bersih 1.0, hindraf, anti-isa and bersih 2.0 is the biggest crowd of all the earliest protest.<br />Good Work Hawkeye.kutunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8218905194749721714.post-41313408135463447352011-07-15T03:17:09.403+08:002011-07-15T03:17:09.403+08:00well when bersih's one malaysia showed up on 7...well when bersih's one malaysia showed up on 709,jibby's rm multimillions hoodwinking hoax hav gone bankcrupt right into the KL drains,,, n it spells the begining of the end of racist umno be end...''unggun bersih,unggun bersih one malaysia''!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8218905194749721714.post-80584870053560693852011-07-15T00:46:38.596+08:002011-07-15T00:46:38.596+08:00Considering the ugly and vicious threats of bloods...Considering the ugly and vicious threats of bloodshed and massacre from BN's goon squads (PDRM, Perkasa, Silat Lanciau) and the keris-wielding cowheaded home minister, I was overjoyed to see so many so determined to be there, overcoming understandable fear. The whole time I was in KL, I felt a sense of euphoria mixed with tension - euphoria because I knew the specter of May 13 had finally faded away like fart; never again will UMNO be able to use their divide-and-rule strategy! Tension... because the police had been primed to inflict maximum terror against the rakyat. Luckily, they seem to have retained enough good sense (if not humanity) to speedily release everyone they arrested on 9 July - except for Uncle Hii from Sarawak.<br /><br />It angers and frustrates me to know the guys from PSM remain in detention and as a face-saving measure, Kerismuddin wants them to confess to trying to "revive communism." To these medieval mindsets "communism" still serves as a bogeyman; just as accusing someone of sodomy is enough to destroy his reputation forever. So childish, backward and stupid!Starmandalahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03349987009726416189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8218905194749721714.post-6883470062134548082011-07-15T00:25:43.145+08:002011-07-15T00:25:43.145+08:00i did a quick 3D simulation, the straight road inf...i did a quick 3D simulation, the straight road infront of PUDU alone is +-18,000 , my method is using particles array and i generate human shape of average 72" height x 24" width x 14" depth, it took about 18000 replication of the human shape to fill up the road. This is just a simulation and 18000 shape is not filling every inch of the road, given that there is a small gap between people. And, this doesn't not include the crowd that gather in front of Maybank.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8218905194749721714.post-10837563325066752472011-07-14T22:10:04.971+08:002011-07-14T22:10:04.971+08:00Don't argue with CSL when he says it depends o...Don't argue with CSL when he says it depends on the angle at which the photo is viewed. Give him the benefit of the doubt since he has great experience and also is an expert with video camera and angles.aniktnfnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8218905194749721714.post-8473748509723413302011-07-14T20:44:47.588+08:002011-07-14T20:44:47.588+08:00Being KL born-and-bred, I thought I have seen the ...Being KL born-and-bred, I thought I have seen the whole of KL, but evidently, this Bersih rally has shown me lots of new roads!Cranksterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17466770053258278747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8218905194749721714.post-55824233742531441762011-07-14T20:42:53.137+08:002011-07-14T20:42:53.137+08:00Thanks Hawkeye :-)
I went with the purpose to doc...Thanks Hawkeye :-)<br /><br />I went with the purpose to document evidence of the numbers etc, but I was so flabbergasted by the sheer amount of people pouring in from all over, that I forgot to snap often enough.<br /><br />I'm fairly certain it is more than 100,000. My mind was blown by that number alone.Cranksterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17466770053258278747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8218905194749721714.post-62559603167144070792011-07-14T19:11:06.868+08:002011-07-14T19:11:06.868+08:00I was there. Estimated at 150k - 200k.
If BN want...I was there. Estimated at 150k - 200k.<br /><br />If BN wants to say 50, let them say 50. They are always in the syiok sendiri syndrome !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8218905194749721714.post-26584925754333613532011-07-14T19:03:38.331+08:002011-07-14T19:03:38.331+08:00I was there and it felt like a million Malaysian. ...I was there and it felt like a million Malaysian. Mr. Hawkeye, I agree with you there was more than 200000.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8218905194749721714.post-82984630048891363442011-07-14T18:00:15.273+08:002011-07-14T18:00:15.273+08:00Can't be 200,000. Even Ambiga mentioned only a...Can't be 200,000. Even Ambiga mentioned only about 50,000 which is already a success. <br />From what I gather it's less than the previous one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8218905194749721714.post-75720455199765970462011-07-14T16:42:05.874+08:002011-07-14T16:42:05.874+08:00Well done Hawkeye. You live up to your name!Well done Hawkeye. You live up to your name!I Sayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12007404089739024574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8218905194749721714.post-35036575944405747442011-07-13T23:43:20.915+08:002011-07-13T23:43:20.915+08:00Hi Anon 11:01,
So what do you think the number is...Hi Anon 11:01,<br /><br />So what do you think the number is?<br /><br />The consideration here is the constant streaming flow of people coming from all directions for the whole afternoon, like most people coming from Sentral through Brickfields to Pasar Seni and Jln Petaling to Stadium.<br /><br />Masjid Jamek towards Jln Pudu Maybank.<br /><br />Old Pudu and Bukit Bintang area towards Jln Pudu and also to KLCC.<br /><br />And from KLCC also flowing to Jln Pudu.<br /><br />I am not alone here as there were constant feedback from our group of people on the ground in all the different locations like Johnny Ong, Rodi, Eugene, Pury and others.<br /><br />Many thanks guys for your feedback.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14911256124110730950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8218905194749721714.post-30278885341106375342011-07-13T23:10:23.086+08:002011-07-13T23:10:23.086+08:00Don't forget th epeople were coming in and goi...Don't forget th epeople were coming in and going back from Friday evening through to about 6 pm Saturday evening.<br /><br />Did IGP keep tabs on all those numbers. If you add it all up over the two days, theer were probably 200,000 EXCLUDING those who turned back because of road closures or LRT and bus restrictiosn.<br /><br />dpp<br />we are all of 1 Race, the Human RaceDonplaypuks®https://www.blogger.com/profile/14885751307558636916noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8218905194749721714.post-87900427191727687842011-07-13T23:01:08.696+08:002011-07-13T23:01:08.696+08:00It is. More than 50k but I don't think it is m...It is. More than 50k but I don't think it is more than 200k.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8218905194749721714.post-29135710728548780012011-07-13T18:11:18.368+08:002011-07-13T18:11:18.368+08:00Good report. Hope Liow reads it and resigns, like ...Good report. Hope Liow reads it and resigns, like Najib, for lying to the nation.<br /><br />dpp<br />we are all of 1 race, the Human RaceDonplaypuks®https://www.blogger.com/profile/14885751307558636916noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8218905194749721714.post-87365296611583311962011-07-13T17:09:01.011+08:002011-07-13T17:09:01.011+08:00Anytime Guru,
Yes we will need to replenish all t...Anytime Guru, <br />Yes we will need to replenish all the spent energy from Bersih 2.0 and GOURMANDIS sounds good.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14911256124110730950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8218905194749721714.post-26558733408908570552011-07-13T14:25:37.218+08:002011-07-13T14:25:37.218+08:00any idea wat's the estimate globally? dun for...any idea wat's the estimate globally? dun forget to add in some of the polis & FRUs ... not every 1 of them was against the march. & God was there too as He cried with tears of joy seeing Malaysians coming together as ONE.pinsysunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8218905194749721714.post-18676532439932215402011-07-13T13:50:31.323+08:002011-07-13T13:50:31.323+08:00Yes. Agreed! 1Malaysia show up in full force. Peop...Yes. Agreed! 1Malaysia show up in full force. People walking everywhere in the city. Thanks for validating the numbers.Chinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8218905194749721714.post-49831939123627039642011-07-13T12:50:46.653+08:002011-07-13T12:50:46.653+08:00Whilst having the long cool dane back at our hotel...Whilst having the long cool dane back at our hotel in Petaling Street somebody asked: "How many participated? Malaysiakini numbers I never believe." My reply: Hawkeye uses the grid method. I am sure he will give us a good estimate in his blog.<br />Thanks comrade brother.<br />Drinks on me at GOURMANDIS.zorrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07541853781206395661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8218905194749721714.post-61804517000628891992011-07-13T12:48:04.724+08:002011-07-13T12:48:04.724+08:00This number feels more like it instead of the 5000...This number feels more like it instead of the 50000 quoted. Was a River of People Flowing Everywhere.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8218905194749721714.post-60319192639390453162011-07-13T12:46:23.909+08:002011-07-13T12:46:23.909+08:00Don't want to be crude, but MCA President was ...Don't want to be crude, but MCA President was referring to the bulu between his legs. Could have been more, but wear and tear shows!zorrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07541853781206395661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8218905194749721714.post-58205352199401357452011-07-13T12:34:48.088+08:002011-07-13T12:34:48.088+08:00Sorry, but simply not possible. My friends alone,...Sorry, but simply not possible. My friends alone, that I met, make up 26! I think it depends on where you were on 709. Go watch the video at Marina's blog and Matthias Chang's blog. Somehow those two videos feature sections of the crowd with majority Chinese!sweebinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04698073771301586334noreply@blogger.com